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Today I went to Chase bank at 86Th St and York Ave (455 E. 86 St. - Channel Club Condominium) and I stopped to say hello to the elder gentleman that sits in the garden area, in front of the bank, to feed breadcrumbs to a few pigeons. Very sadden with tears in his eyes, he told me "This morning I counted 8 dead pigeons here, they are killing the birds! This sweet man has not been told, by anybody in the area, not to feed the birds.
The cowards that are poisoning the birds are doing it while nobody sees them. Isn't it illegal to kill/poison wild-life in New York?
I remember, a few years ago, dozens of pigeons were being poisoned at that same corner, the building that was killing the birds was 126 East 86 St. People even posted signs outside the bank stating that the building was poisoning birds and the killings suddenly stopped.
Is there anything that could be done to stop this bastards? Is there any local animal welfare agency that would actually do something about this crime? Dept of Bldgs info: http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/OverviewForComplaintServlet?requestid=2&vlcompdetlkey=0001068034
Contact info: 1637 York Ave
New York, NY 10028
Phone: (212) 348-2441
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| Bob |
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If they're using Avitrol it's illegal as you can read by this NY1 newsclip.
The DEC says a New Jersey company is to blame for the dozens of dead birds found in Eltingville and Great Kills last month.
DEC representatives say their investigation found that New Jersey-based company AAA Animal and Pest Control had been using Avitrol in Great Kills for a number of years to rid the area of birds.
Avitrol was banned from the city eight years ago because of the cruel affects of the chemicals and its potential to kill non-target species.
The company, which is not a registered business in New York State, admitted to using the chemical and has been cited by the DEC.
Penalties for the use of Avitrol in New York City include fines of up to $5,000 for the first violation.
http://www.ny1.com/Default.aspx?SecID=1000&ArID=77651
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| tamara |
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the man who owns the mansion diner at 86 and york is also a notorious pigeon hater and a vile human being he put up spikes and glue on the rental apt he owns over the diner (on york and 86 two units) and tried to get a huge lovely old tree on the corner of 86 and York outside his mediocre diner chopped down- he could be in cahoots with whoever did the poisonings |
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| Donald Jenner |
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This was in a vest-pocket park where the dead birds were seen? Is it known who has charge of the park? If Parks Dept, could be a by-product of rat-poisoning projects.
Best practice here: Bag the carcases, and get them to Joe Pane pronto. Given enough dead birds, DEC will finally have to look into the matter. But you can't let them spoil too much — too hard to do the necropsy. [Alternative: Refrigerate and then send packed in artificial icepacks — but not cheap by comparison to a trip to Queens; also harder to take pictures of a bunch of people handing over dead-bird carcases....]
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| Lois |
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The same thing happened many years ago and we marched outside the building and different people called their city council person to complain. Birds were dying all over the neighborhood. I'm pretty sure that they passed a law after this banning the poisoning.
I myself watched sereral pigeons die and it was awful.
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| casey |
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Before you bag the dead birds, take photos of them with locators in the picture. You may need these as evidence.
Contact Humane Society of the United States Urban Wildlife office. (http://www.hsus.org then follow links to appropriate dept. phone number) They will help you. Many of the people now leading HSUS were formerly with Fund for Animals. They led the national campaign against pigeon shoots.
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| Pidge |
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Unfortunately I did not see the dead birds, the nice guy that feeds said they "cleaned up" very early. I went by today a few times but saw nothing.
Tomorrow morning I am going there as early as I can to see if there's more dead birds. If I do I will contact the Humane Society immediately, and will take pictures. I know the owner of the dinner hates the pigeons but not openly. He very sneaky but I know a pigeon hater when I see one.
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| tamara |
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You can also call the DEC they came to investigate when the repugnant diner owner put glue and spikes out ( he was catching sparrows in the glue) they don't want a bird like a hawk getting poisoned or caught in glue.And you would think he was guarding the taj mahal instead of two squat ugly buildings- no one needs to put glue and spikes out is what they told the unctuous little diner owner one or the other and glue is really not an option. In the brief and horrible time I lived on 86 and york I did see interesting birds in the tree that the aforesaid gross diner owner tried to have chopped down. Officer Micheal buckley was the DEC officer |
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| Alexis |
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It's a pity that pigeons are so maligned in this town. They have a right to live, eat, reproduce, etc. Plus they were brought here by MAN. Ugh.
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| vp |
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Did you hear about the HUGE birdkill that they did here in Somerset, NJ? It was absolutely disgusting. From what I heard, the Government not only tolerated it, they engineered it!!
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| Naomi |
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I emailed this horrible story about the poisoned pigeons to Avella, Senator Krueger, and to the DEC. I'll write a formal email on Tuesday. |
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| Lee |
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The building management is Brown, Harrison, Stevens and they should be contacted (212-508-7200). |
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| tamara |
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For some reason that area of East 86 street and York is a hotbed of problems a few weeks ago it was the skate boarder stomping on a pigeon and now it is the poisonings. My own experiences in that neighborhood were extremely unpleasant. Lots of dogs walk in that Chase bank park even people who don't care about pigeons might care that their dogs could pick something up. A woman told me her dog had been badly poisoned in Carl Schurz park by rat poison that was not in the right area.I have seen toddlers pick things up there- poisoning is just a dreadful solution that usually backfires.And it is possible that a hawk or other bird of prey would eat a poisoned pigeon or sparrow thereby decimating that group of birds.All in all the intolerance that is endemic to that area needs to be addressed. |
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